Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau up Y Lliwedd East Top: route map, distance and time

893 m · Snowdonia

A grade 1 scramble to the summit from Watkin Path entrance at Nant Gwynant.

Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau starts at about 76 m and gains 791 m over 5.5 km to 847 m on the track. The first kilometre climbs 47 m. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 5 km, which climbs 220 m at an average of 22%, with a 500 m stretch from 4.2 km at about 29%. It keeps climbing at 16% to the top. About 29% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5, so expect hands-on-knees going and a slow descent.

Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau at a glance

Distance5.5 km one way, to the top
Ascent830 m
Climb on the track791 m up, 17 m down on the way
Start and top of the track76 m to 854 m (summit 893 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 29%, from 4.2 km
Steeper than 1 in 529% of the way
Time up2h 30m by Naismith's rule
There and back3h 35m, down the same way
GradeScramble
StartWatkin Path entrance at Nant Gwynant, LL55 4NL
Start grid referenceSH 627 505
Summit grid referenceSH 624 532
ParkingPont Bethania car park (SH627506); the postcode is approximate

Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 76 m5.5 km to the top
Start grid ref SH 627 505 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Near the start

From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.

Download the Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km123 m+47 m5%SH 625 514
2 km260 m+136 m14%SH 621 520
3 km356 m+96 m10%SH 613 524
4 km543 m+188 m19%SH 616 533
5 km763 m+220 m22% steepSH 620 535
5.5 km847 m+84 m16%SH 624 532

How long Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up2h 0m2h 55m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up2h 30m3h 35m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up3h 0m4h 25m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:50, sunset 18:12. Start by 13:37 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 35m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:51, sunset 18:10. Start by 13:35 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 35m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Y Lliwedd East Top summit weather for this route

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Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

About Y Lliwedd East Top

More about Y Lliwedd East Top, with the live forecast.

Challenges that include Y Lliwedd East Top

More walks from Watkin Path entrance at Nant Gwynant

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Y Lliwedd East Top

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
Miners' Track and east ridge4.6 km one way560 m1h 50mScramble

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 627 505, the summit at SH 624 532), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau: questions and answers

How far is Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau?

Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau is 5.5 km one way to the summit of Y Lliwedd East Top, with 830 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 11.0 km.

How long does Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau take?

About 2h 30m to the summit of Y Lliwedd East Top and 3h 35m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 4h 25m for the round trip.

How steep is Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau?

The steepest 500 m averages about 29%, starting 4.2 km from the start, and 29% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau climbs 791 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau?

Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau starts from Watkin Path entrance at Nant Gwynant (postcode LL55 4NL). The grid reference is SH 627 505. Pont Bethania car park (SH627506); the postcode is approximate

Is Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau suitable for beginners?

No. It is a scramble: you use your hands on rock, often with big drops below. Go with someone experienced, on a dry and calm day.

What time should I start Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau today?

By 13:37 at the latest. Sunset on Y Lliwedd East Top today is 18:12, Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau takes about 3h 35m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for Watkin Path and Bwlch y Saethau?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.