Llyn Celyn northern uplands up Carnedd y Filiast (Snowdonia): route map, distance and time

669 m · Snowdonia

Carnedd y Filiast is a 669 m Hewitt, Nuttall and Marilyn on the moorland north-east of the Arenig hills, a remote summit above Llyn Celyn.

A hard mountain walk to the summit from Llyn Celyn north-shore public track.

Llyn Celyn northern uplands starts at about 325 m and gains 432 m over 5.6 km to 660 m on the track. The first 4 km are the easy part, averaging 4%. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 5 km, which climbs 143 m at an average of 14%. The final 0.6 km eases to the top.

Llyn Celyn northern uplands at a glance

Distance5.6 km one way, to the top
Ascent440 m
Climb on the track432 m up, 98 m down on the way
Start and top of the track325 m to 660 m (summit 669 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 17%, from 4.6 km
Steeper than 1 in 54% of the way
Time up1h 50m by Naismith's rule
There and back3h 0m, down the same way
GradeHard
StartLlyn Celyn north-shore public track
Start grid referenceSH 861 410
Summit grid referenceSH 871 445
ParkingNo checked car park for this start; find lawful parking nearby

Llyn Celyn northern uplands map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 325 m5.6 km to the top
Start grid ref SH 861 410 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Near the start

From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.

Download the Llyn Celyn northern uplands GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

Llyn Celyn northern uplands kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km433 m+108 m11%SH 857 416
2 km494 m+61 m6%SH 862 424
3 km529 m+35 m4%SH 869 426
4 km473 m-57 m-6%SH 875 432
5 km616 m+143 m14%SH 872 440
5.6 km660 m+44 m8%SH 871 445

How long Llyn Celyn northern uplands takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up1h 30m2h 25m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up1h 50m3h 0m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up2h 15m3h 40m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:05, sunset 16:51. Start by 12:51 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 0m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:06, sunset 16:49. Start by 12:49 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 0m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Carnedd y Filiast summit weather for this route

  • Poor Today Wednesday 28 October

    Slight rain, up to 10°C at the summit, feeling as cold as 1°C, summit wind 42 mph gusting 53 mph, 100% chance of rain. Rated Poor. Sunrise 07:05, sunset 16:51.

  • Marginal Tomorrow Thursday 29 October

    Mostly dry, up to 10°C at the summit, feeling as cold as 2°C, summit wind 32 mph gusting 40 mph, 8% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:06, sunset 16:49.

Best day of the next seven for Llyn Celyn northern uplands: Saturday 31 October, with summit gusts around 11 mph and a 2% chance of rain.

Cloud inversion tomorrow morning: 57% (Good), best around 05:00.

Hour-by-hour Carnedd y Filiast forecast

Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

What to take today

  • A warm layer, hat and gloves: it feels like 1°C on top.
  • Waterproof jacket and overtrousers: 100% chance of rain.
  • A windproof layer, and poles for balance in gusts to 53 mph.
  • Map and compass, and the skills to use them. A phone is a backup, not a plan.
  • A head torch, food, water, a charged phone and a small first aid kit.

About Carnedd y Filiast

Carnedd y Filiast is a 669 m Hewitt, Nuttall and Marilyn on the moorland north-east of the Arenig hills, a remote summit above Llyn Celyn. More about Carnedd y Filiast, with the live forecast.

On the lists: Hewitt, Nuttall, Marilyn.

Extend the walk: tops near the summit

Challenges that include Carnedd y Filiast

More walks from Llyn Celyn north-shore public track

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 861 410, the summit at SH 871 445), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Llyn Celyn northern uplands: questions and answers

How far is Llyn Celyn northern uplands?

Llyn Celyn northern uplands is 5.6 km one way to the summit of Carnedd y Filiast, with 440 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 11.2 km.

How long does Llyn Celyn northern uplands take?

About 1h 50m to the summit of Carnedd y Filiast and 3h 0m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 3h 40m for the round trip.

How steep is Llyn Celyn northern uplands?

The steepest 500 m averages about 17%, starting 4.6 km from the start, and 4% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Llyn Celyn northern uplands climbs 432 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for Llyn Celyn northern uplands?

Llyn Celyn northern uplands starts from Llyn Celyn north-shore public track. The grid reference is SH 861 410. No checked car park for this start; find lawful parking nearby

Is Llyn Celyn northern uplands suitable for beginners?

Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first.

What time should I start Llyn Celyn northern uplands today?

By 12:51 at the latest. Sunset on Carnedd y Filiast today is 16:51, Llyn Celyn northern uplands takes about 3h 0m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for Llyn Celyn northern uplands?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.