Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras up Llwytmor: route map, distance and time
849 m · Snowdonia
A hard mountain walk to the summit from Abergwyngregyn mountain-road track junction.
Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras starts at about 258 m and gains 761 m over 8.4 km to 837 m on the track. The first 3 km are the easy part, averaging 9%. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 8.4 km, which climbs 60 m at an average of 14%, with a 500 m stretch from 5.7 km at about 22%. That last pull ends at the summit.
Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras at a glance
| Distance | 8.4 km one way, to the top |
|---|---|
| Ascent | 780 m |
| Climb on the track | 761 m up, 186 m down on the way |
| Start and top of the track | 259 m to 937 m (summit 849 m) |
| Steepest 500 m | About 22%, from 5.7 km |
| Steeper than 1 in 5 | 5% of the way |
| Time up | 3h 0m by Naismith's rule |
| There and back | 4h 40m, down the same way |
| Grade | Hard |
| Start | Abergwyngregyn mountain-road track junction, LL33 0LP |
| Start grid reference | SH 680 720 |
| Summit grid reference | SH 689 692 |
| Parking | Aber Falls upper car park; the postcode is approximate |
Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras map
The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.
Height profile and getting to the start
Near the start
From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.
Download the Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras GPX
Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.
Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras kilometre by kilometre
Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.
| At | Height | Climb | Gradient | Grid ref |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 km | 359 m | +101 m | 10% | SH 689 720 |
| 2 km | 460 m | +100 m | 10% | SH 695 718 |
| 3 km | 538 m | +79 m | 8% | SH 700 710 |
| 4 km | 658 m | +120 m | 12% | SH 707 703 |
| 5 km | 744 m | +86 m | 9% | SH 707 693 |
| 6 km | 806 m | +62 m | 6% | SH 703 685 |
| 7 km | 925 m | +119 m | 12% | SH 696 682 |
| 8 km | 778 m | -147 m | -15% | SH 692 689 |
| 8.4 km | 837 m | +60 m | 14% | SH 689 692 |
How long Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras takes
| Pace | To the top | There and back |
|---|---|---|
| Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up | 2h 25m | 3h 50m |
| Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up | 3h 0m | 4h 40m |
| Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up | 3h 40m | 5h 45m |
Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.
- Today: sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11. Start by 12:31 to be down before dark, allowing 4h 40m for the walk and an hour for stops.
- Tomorrow: sunrise 07:51, sunset 18:09. Start by 12:29 to be down before dark, allowing 4h 40m for the walk and an hour for stops.
Llwytmor summit weather for this route
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Marginal Today Monday 19 October
Dense drizzle, up to 6°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -2°C, summit wind 30 mph gusting 37 mph, 86% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11.
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Marginal Tomorrow Tuesday 20 October
Light drizzle, up to 6°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -1°C, summit wind 21 mph gusting 34 mph, 76% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:51, sunset 18:09.
Best day of the next seven for Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras: Tuesday 20 October, with summit gusts around 34 mph and a 76% chance of rain.
Hour-by-hour Llwytmor forecast
Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.
What to take today
- An insulated jacket, hat and warm gloves: it feels like -2°C on top.
- Waterproof jacket and overtrousers: 86% chance of rain.
- A windproof layer, and poles for balance in gusts to 37 mph.
- Map and compass, and the skills to use them. A phone is a backup, not a plan.
- A head torch, food, water, a charged phone and a small first aid kit.
About Llwytmor
More about Llwytmor, with the live forecast.
Challenges that include Llwytmor
More walks from Abergwyngregyn mountain-road track junction
Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.
- Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge up Carnedd Llewelyn
- Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge up Foel Grach
- Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge up Foel-fras
- Abergwyngregyn via Llyn Anafon up Foel-fras
- Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge up Garnedd Uchaf
- Abergwyngregyn via Llyn Anafon up Garnedd Uchaf
- Drum from Abergwyngregyn up Drum
Other routes up Llwytmor
| Route | Distance | Ascent | Time up | Grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and Foel-fras | 8.2 km one way | 660 m | 2h 45m | Hard |
| Llanfairfechan via Drum and Foel-fras | 8.8 km one way | 830 m | 3h 10m | Hard |
| Abergwyngregyn via Llyn Anafon | 7.7 km one way | 800 m | 2h 50m | Hard |
In an emergency
Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 680 720, the summit at SH 689 692), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.
Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras: questions and answers
How far is Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras?
Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras is 8.4 km one way to the summit of Llwytmor, with 780 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 16.8 km.
How long does Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras take?
About 3h 0m to the summit of Llwytmor and 4h 40m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 5h 45m for the round trip.
How steep is Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras?
The steepest 500 m averages about 22%, starting 5.7 km from the start, and 5% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras climbs 761 m in all on the track.
Where do you park for Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras?
Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras starts from Abergwyngregyn mountain-road track junction (postcode LL33 0LP). The grid reference is SH 680 720. Aber Falls upper car park; the postcode is approximate
Is Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras suitable for beginners?
Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first.
What time should I start Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras today?
By 12:31 at the latest. Sunset on Llwytmor today is 18:11, Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras takes about 4h 40m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.
Is there a GPX for Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras?
Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.