Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras up Llwytmor: route map, distance and time

849 m · Snowdonia

A hard mountain walk to the summit from Abergwyngregyn mountain-road track junction.

Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras starts at about 258 m and gains 761 m over 8.4 km to 837 m on the track. The first 3 km are the easy part, averaging 9%. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 8.4 km, which climbs 60 m at an average of 14%, with a 500 m stretch from 5.7 km at about 22%. That last pull ends at the summit.

Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras at a glance

Distance8.4 km one way, to the top
Ascent780 m
Climb on the track761 m up, 186 m down on the way
Start and top of the track259 m to 937 m (summit 849 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 22%, from 5.7 km
Steeper than 1 in 55% of the way
Time up3h 0m by Naismith's rule
There and back4h 40m, down the same way
GradeHard
StartAbergwyngregyn mountain-road track junction, LL33 0LP
Start grid referenceSH 680 720
Summit grid referenceSH 689 692
ParkingAber Falls upper car park; the postcode is approximate

Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 258 m8.4 km to the top
Start grid ref SH 680 720 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Near the start

From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.

Download the Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km359 m+101 m10%SH 689 720
2 km460 m+100 m10%SH 695 718
3 km538 m+79 m8%SH 700 710
4 km658 m+120 m12%SH 707 703
5 km744 m+86 m9%SH 707 693
6 km806 m+62 m6%SH 703 685
7 km925 m+119 m12%SH 696 682
8 km778 m-147 m-15%SH 692 689
8.4 km837 m+60 m14%SH 689 692

How long Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up2h 25m3h 50m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up3h 0m4h 40m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up3h 40m5h 45m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11. Start by 12:31 to be down before dark, allowing 4h 40m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:51, sunset 18:09. Start by 12:29 to be down before dark, allowing 4h 40m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Llwytmor summit weather for this route

  • Marginal Today Monday 19 October

    Dense drizzle, up to 6°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -2°C, summit wind 30 mph gusting 37 mph, 86% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11.

  • Marginal Tomorrow Tuesday 20 October

    Light drizzle, up to 6°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -1°C, summit wind 21 mph gusting 34 mph, 76% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:51, sunset 18:09.

Best day of the next seven for Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras: Tuesday 20 October, with summit gusts around 34 mph and a 76% chance of rain.

Hour-by-hour Llwytmor forecast

Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

What to take today

  • An insulated jacket, hat and warm gloves: it feels like -2°C on top.
  • Waterproof jacket and overtrousers: 86% chance of rain.
  • A windproof layer, and poles for balance in gusts to 37 mph.
  • Map and compass, and the skills to use them. A phone is a backup, not a plan.
  • A head torch, food, water, a charged phone and a small first aid kit.

About Llwytmor

More about Llwytmor, with the live forecast.

Challenges that include Llwytmor

More walks from Abergwyngregyn mountain-road track junction

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Llwytmor

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and Foel-fras8.2 km one way660 m2h 45mHard
Llanfairfechan via Drum and Foel-fras8.8 km one way830 m3h 10mHard
Abergwyngregyn via Llyn Anafon7.7 km one way800 m2h 50mHard

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 680 720, the summit at SH 689 692), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras: questions and answers

How far is Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras?

Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras is 8.4 km one way to the summit of Llwytmor, with 780 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 16.8 km.

How long does Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras take?

About 3h 0m to the summit of Llwytmor and 4h 40m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 5h 45m for the round trip.

How steep is Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras?

The steepest 500 m averages about 22%, starting 5.7 km from the start, and 5% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras climbs 761 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras?

Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras starts from Abergwyngregyn mountain-road track junction (postcode LL33 0LP). The grid reference is SH 680 720. Aber Falls upper car park; the postcode is approximate

Is Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras suitable for beginners?

Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first.

What time should I start Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras today?

By 12:31 at the latest. Sunset on Llwytmor today is 18:11, Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras takes about 4h 40m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for Abergwyngregyn via Drum and Foel-fras?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.