Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge up Foel-fras: route map, distance and time

944 m · Snowdonia · OS grid SH696681

Foel-fras is the northern end of the Welsh 3000s, a grassy summit on the northern Carneddau ridge with a wall running across its top.

A hard mountain walk to the summit from Abergwyngregyn via Drum mapped track junction.

The Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge starts at about 258 m and gains 709 m over 6.8 km to 934 m on the track. The first 3 km are the easy part, averaging 9%. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 6.8 km, which climbs 128 m at an average of 16%, with a 500 m stretch from 5.7 km at about 22%. That last pull ends at the summit.

Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge at a glance

Distance6.8 km one way, to the top
Ascent720 m
Climb on the track709 m up, 34 m down on the way
Start and top of the track259 m to 934 m (summit 944 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 22%, from 5.7 km
Steeper than 1 in 54% of the way
Time up2h 35m by Naismith's rule
There and back3h 55m, down the same way
GradeHard
StartAbergwyngregyn via Drum mapped track junction, LL33 0LP
Start grid referenceSH 680 720
Summit grid referenceSH696681
ParkingAber Falls upper car park; the postcode is approximate

Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 258 m6.8 km to the top
Start grid ref SH 680 720 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Near the start

From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.

Download the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km359 m+101 m10%SH 689 720
2 km460 m+100 m10%SH 695 718
3 km538 m+79 m8%SH 700 710
4 km658 m+120 m12%SH 707 703
5 km744 m+86 m9%SH 707 693
6 km806 m+62 m6%SH 703 685
6.8 km934 m+128 m16%SH 696 681

How long the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up2h 5m3h 15m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up2h 35m3h 55m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up3h 10m4h 50m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:13. Start by 13:18 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 55m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11. Start by 13:16 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 55m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Foel-fras summit weather for this route

  • Good Today Sunday 18 October

    Overcast, up to 4°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -4°C, summit wind 24 mph gusting 30 mph, 21% chance of rain. Rated Good. Sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:13.

  • Marginal Tomorrow Monday 19 October

    Moderate drizzle, up to 6°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -2°C, summit wind 31 mph gusting 39 mph, 73% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11.

Best day of the next seven for the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge: Sunday 18 October, with summit gusts around 30 mph and a 21% chance of rain.

Cloud inversion tomorrow morning: 3% (Low), best around 09:00. 7-day inversion outlook.

Hour-by-hour Foel-fras forecast · 14-day forecast · Is it safe to climb Foel-fras?

Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

What to take today

  • An insulated jacket, hat and warm gloves: it feels like -4°C on top.
  • A waterproof jacket. It can rain on the tops in any forecast.
  • Map and compass, and the skills to use them. A phone is a backup, not a plan.
  • A head torch, food, water, a charged phone and a small first aid kit.

About Foel-fras

Foel-fras is the northern end of the Welsh 3000s, a grassy summit on the northern Carneddau ridge with a wall running across its top. More about Foel-fras, with the live forecast.

On the lists: Furth, Hewitt, Nuttall.

Extend the walk: tops near the summit

Challenges that include Foel-fras

More walks from Abergwyngregyn via Drum mapped track junction

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Foel-fras

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum5.1 km one way565 m2h 0mModerate
Rachub via Drosgl and Yr Aryg flanks, via Bera Bach8.6 km one way670 m2h 50mHard
Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge6.6 km one way600 m2h 20mHard
Llanfairfechan via Drum and northern ridge7.2 km one way770 m2h 45mHard
Abergwyngregyn via Llyn Anafon6.3 km one way740 m2h 30mHard

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 680 720, the summit at SH696681), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge: questions and answers

How far is the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge?

The Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge is 6.8 km one way to the summit of Foel-fras, with 720 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 13.6 km.

How long does the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge take?

About 2h 35m to the summit of Foel-fras and 3h 55m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 4h 50m for the round trip.

How steep is the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge?

The steepest 500 m averages about 22%, starting 5.7 km from the start, and 4% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. The Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge climbs 709 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge?

The Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge starts from Abergwyngregyn via Drum mapped track junction (postcode LL33 0LP). The grid reference is SH 680 720. Aber Falls upper car park; the postcode is approximate

Is the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge suitable for beginners?

Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first, such as Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum.

What time should I start the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge today?

By 13:18 at the latest. Sunset on Foel-fras today is 18:13, The Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge takes about 3h 55m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for the Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.