Brothers Water by the north ridge up Middle Dodd: route map, distance and time
654 m · Cumbria
Middle Dodd is a steep grassy spur on the north side of Red Screes, rising above Brothers Water and the Kirkstone Pass road.
Walk south past Brothers Water and Hartsop Hall, then climb the steep grassy north ridge to the summit.
Brothers Water by the north ridge at a glance
| Distance | 4.1 km one way, to the top |
|---|---|
| Ascent | 500 m |
| Time up | 1h 40m by Naismith's rule |
| There and back | 2h 30m, down the same way |
| Grade | Hard |
| Start | Cow Bridge car park, Brothers Water |
| Start grid reference | NY 403 133 |
| Summit grid reference | NY 397 095 |
Brothers Water by the north ridge map
The start (green) and the summit (blue). Peakify has no GPX track for this route yet, so follow the description and your map.
Height profile and getting to the start
Near the start
From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.
How long the Brothers Water by the north ridge takes
| Pace | To the top | There and back |
|---|---|---|
| Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up | 1h 20m | 2h 0m |
| Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up | 1h 40m | 2h 30m |
| Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up | 2h 0m | 3h 5m |
Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.
- Today: sunrise 07:46, sunset 18:07. Start by 14:37 to be down before dark, allowing 2h 30m for the walk and an hour for stops.
- Tomorrow: sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:05. Start by 14:35 to be down before dark, allowing 2h 30m for the walk and an hour for stops.
Middle Dodd summit weather for this route
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Before you go, also check: MWIS Lake District forecast · Met Office mountain forecast · Weatherline fell top conditions.
About Middle Dodd
Middle Dodd is a steep grassy spur on the north side of Red Screes, rising above Brothers Water and the Kirkstone Pass road. More about Middle Dodd, with the live forecast.
On the lists: Wainwright, Birkett.
Extend the walk: tops near the summit
- Red Screes (779 m), 0.8 km south
- Little Hart Crag (637 m), 1.1 km north-west
- High Hartsop Dodd (519 m), 1.3 km north
- Stony Cove Pike (764 m), 2.1 km east
- Dove Crag (792 m), 2.4 km west
- High Pike (657 m), 2.4 km west
Challenges that include Middle Dodd
More walks from Cow Bridge car park, Brothers Water
Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.
- Cow Bridge via Dovedale up Dove Crag
- Cow Bridge via Caiston Glen and Scandale Pass up Dove Crag
- Cow Bridge via Caiston Glen and Scandale Pass up Fairfield
- Cow Bridge via Caiston Glen and Scandale Pass up Hart Crag
- Cow Bridge via Hartsop Hall up High Hartsop Dodd
- Brothers Water via High Hartsop Dodd up Little Hart Crag
- Cow Bridge via Caiston Glen and Scandale Pass up Little Hart Crag
- Cow Bridge via Caiston Glen and Scandale Pass up Red Screes
Other routes up Middle Dodd
| Route | Distance | Ascent | Time up | Grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cow Bridge via Caiston Glen and Scandale Pass | 6.6 km one way | 650 m | 2h 25m | Hard |
| Kirkstone via Red Screes | 2.0 km one way | 330 m | 0h 55m | Hard |
In an emergency
Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at NY 403 133, the summit at NY 397 095), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.
Brothers Water by the north ridge: questions and answers
How far is the Brothers Water by the north ridge?
The Brothers Water by the north ridge is 4.1 km one way to the summit of Middle Dodd, with 500 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 8.2 km.
How long does the Brothers Water by the north ridge take?
About 1h 40m to the summit of Middle Dodd and 2h 30m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 3h 5m for the round trip.
Where do you park for the Brothers Water by the north ridge?
The Brothers Water by the north ridge starts from Cow Bridge car park, Brothers Water. The grid reference is NY 403 133.
Is the Brothers Water by the north ridge suitable for beginners?
Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first.
What time should I start the Brothers Water by the north ridge today?
By 14:37 at the latest. Sunset on Middle Dodd today is 18:07, The Brothers Water by the north ridge takes about 2h 30m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.
Is there a GPX for the Brothers Water by the north ridge?
Not yet. The Peakify iPhone app can plan the route and export a GPX (Peakify Pro).