Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach up Rhobell Fawr: route map, distance and time

734 m · Snowdonia

Rhobell Fawr is a 734 m Hewitt and Marilyn north-east of Dolgellau, a craggy volcanic hill standing apart from the main Snowdonia ranges.

A hard mountain walk to the summit from Cwm yr Allt-lwyd public path.

Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach starts at about 316 m and gains 480 m over 6.8 km to 722 m on the track. The first 6 km are the easy part, averaging 4%. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 6.8 km, which climbs 151 m at an average of 19%, with a 500 m stretch from 5.9 km at about 27%. That last pull ends at the summit.

Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach at a glance

Distance6.8 km one way, to the top
Ascent500 m
Climb on the track480 m up, 76 m down on the way
Start and top of the track286 m to 722 m (summit 734 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 27%, from 5.9 km
Steeper than 1 in 56% of the way
Time up2h 10m by Naismith's rule
There and back3h 35m, down the same way
GradeHard
StartCwm yr Allt-lwyd public path
Start grid referenceSH 781 294
Summit grid referenceSH 786 256
ParkingNo checked car park for this start; find lawful parking nearby

Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 316 m6.8 km to the top
Start grid ref SH 781 294 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Download the Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km287 m-29 m-3%SH 788 292
2 km304 m+17 m2%SH 795 287
3 km418 m+114 m11%SH 798 279
4 km511 m+93 m9%SH 797 269
5 km498 m-13 m-1%SH 799 260
6 km570 m+72 m7%SH 794 257
6.8 km722 m+151 m19%SH 786 256

How long Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up1h 50m2h 55m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up2h 10m3h 35m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up2h 40m4h 25m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:05, sunset 16:52. Start by 12:17 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 35m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:06, sunset 16:50. Start by 12:15 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 35m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Rhobell Fawr summit weather for this route

There is no recent summit forecast cached for Rhobell Fawr right now. The main Rhobell Fawr page loads the live forecast when you open it. Open the live Rhobell Fawr forecast.

Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

About Rhobell Fawr

Rhobell Fawr is a 734 m Hewitt and Marilyn north-east of Dolgellau, a craggy volcanic hill standing apart from the main Snowdonia ranges. More about Rhobell Fawr, with the live forecast.

On the lists: Hewitt, Nuttall, Marilyn.

Extend the walk: tops near the summit

  • Dduallt (663 m), 2.9 km north-east

Challenges that include Rhobell Fawr

More walks from Cwm yr Allt-lwyd public path

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Rhobell Fawr

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
From Llanfachreth5.6 km one way566 m2h 5mModerate
Rhydymain and forest paths5.7 km one way590 m2h 5mHard

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 781 294, the summit at SH 786 256), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach: questions and answers

How far is Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach?

Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach is 6.8 km one way to the summit of Rhobell Fawr, with 500 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 13.6 km.

How long does Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach take?

About 2h 10m to the summit of Rhobell Fawr and 3h 35m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 4h 25m for the round trip.

How steep is Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach?

The steepest 500 m averages about 27%, starting 5.9 km from the start, and 6% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach climbs 480 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach?

Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach starts from Cwm yr Allt-lwyd public path. The grid reference is SH 781 294. No checked car park for this start; find lawful parking nearby

Is Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach suitable for beginners?

Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first, such as From Llanfachreth.

What time should I start Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach today?

By 12:17 at the latest. Sunset on Rhobell Fawr today is 16:52, Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach takes about 3h 35m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for Cwm yr Allt-lwyd northern approach?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.