Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes up Thunacar Knott: route map, distance and time

723 m · Cumbria

Thunacar Knott is a 723 m grassy dome behind the Langdale Pikes, climbed with Pavey Ark and Harrison Stickle from Stickle Tarn.

A hard mountain walk to the summit from Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park.

Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes starts at about 97 m and gains 620 m over 3.4 km to 715 m on the track. The first kilometre climbs 56 m. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 2 km, which climbs 270 m at an average of 27%, with a 500 m stretch from 2.3 km at about 38%. The final 0.4 km eases to the top. About 42% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5, so expect hands-on-knees going and a slow descent.

Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes at a glance

Distance3.4 km one way, to the top
Climb on the track620 m up, 7 m down on the way
Start and top of the track97 m to 715 m (summit 723 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 38%, from 2.3 km
Steeper than 1 in 542% of the way
GradeHard
StartOld Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park
Start grid referenceNY 286 061
Summit grid referenceNY 279 079
ParkingOld Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park

Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 97 m3.4 km to the top
Start grid ref NY 286 061 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Near the start

From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.

Download the Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km153 m+56 m6%NY 291 065
2 km423 m+270 m27% steepNY 288 073
3 km684 m+262 m26% steepNY 281 076
3.4 km715 m+30 m8%NY 279 079

How long Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up1h 25m2h 0m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up1h 45m2h 25m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up2h 5m2h 55m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

Thunacar Knott summit weather for this route

There is no recent summit forecast cached for Thunacar Knott right now. The main Thunacar Knott page loads the live forecast when you open it. Open the live Thunacar Knott forecast.

Before you go, also check: MWIS Lake District forecast · Met Office mountain forecast · Weatherline fell top conditions.

About Thunacar Knott

Thunacar Knott is a 723 m grassy dome behind the Langdale Pikes, climbed with Pavey Ark and Harrison Stickle from Stickle Tarn. More about Thunacar Knott, with the live forecast.

On the lists: Wainwright, Nuttall, Birkett.

Extend the walk: tops near the summit

Challenges that include Thunacar Knott

More walks from Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Thunacar Knott

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
New Dungeon Ghyll via Stickle Tarn3.1 km one way——Moderate
Mickleden via Stake Pass6.9 km one way——Hard

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at NY 286 061, the summit at NY 279 079), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes: questions and answers

How far is Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes?

Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes is 3.4 km one way to the summit of Thunacar Knott. There and back by the same way is about 6.8 km.

How steep is Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes?

The steepest 500 m averages about 38%, starting 2.3 km from the start, and 42% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes climbs 620 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes?

Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes starts from Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park. The grid reference is NY 286 061. Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park

Is Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes suitable for beginners?

Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first, such as New Dungeon Ghyll via Stickle Tarn.

Is there a GPX for Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.