Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes up Thunacar Knott: route map, distance and time
723 m · Cumbria
Thunacar Knott is a 723 m grassy dome behind the Langdale Pikes, climbed with Pavey Ark and Harrison Stickle from Stickle Tarn.
A hard mountain walk to the summit from Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park.
Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes starts at about 97 m and gains 620 m over 3.4 km to 715 m on the track. The first kilometre climbs 56 m. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 2 km, which climbs 270 m at an average of 27%, with a 500 m stretch from 2.3 km at about 38%. The final 0.4 km eases to the top. About 42% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5, so expect hands-on-knees going and a slow descent.
Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes at a glance
| Distance | 3.4 km one way, to the top |
|---|---|
| Climb on the track | 620 m up, 7 m down on the way |
| Start and top of the track | 97 m to 715 m (summit 723 m) |
| Steepest 500 m | About 38%, from 2.3 km |
| Steeper than 1 in 5 | 42% of the way |
| Grade | Hard |
| Start | Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park |
| Start grid reference | NY 286 061 |
| Summit grid reference | NY 279 079 |
| Parking | Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park |
Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes map
The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.
Height profile and getting to the start
Near the start
- Old Dungeon Ghyll Climbers Bar0.1 km
- Sticklebarn0.9 km
- Walker's Bar1.0 km
- Public toilets0.9 km
- Great Langdale Campsite0.3 km
From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.
Download the Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes GPX
Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.
Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes kilometre by kilometre
Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.
| At | Height | Climb | Gradient | Grid ref |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 km | 153 m | +56 m | 6% | NY 291 065 |
| 2 km | 423 m | +270 m | 27% steep | NY 288 073 |
| 3 km | 684 m | +262 m | 26% steep | NY 281 076 |
| 3.4 km | 715 m | +30 m | 8% | NY 279 079 |
How long Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes takes
| Pace | To the top | There and back |
|---|---|---|
| Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up | 1h 25m | 2h 0m |
| Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up | 1h 45m | 2h 25m |
| Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up | 2h 5m | 2h 55m |
Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.
Thunacar Knott summit weather for this route
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About Thunacar Knott
Thunacar Knott is a 723 m grassy dome behind the Langdale Pikes, climbed with Pavey Ark and Harrison Stickle from Stickle Tarn. More about Thunacar Knott, with the live forecast.
On the lists: Wainwright, Nuttall, Birkett.
Extend the walk: tops near the summit
- Pavey Ark (702 m), 0.5 km east
- Harrison Stickle (735 m), 0.6 km south
- Pike of Stickle (708 m), 0.9 km south-west
- Loft Crag (682 m), 0.9 km south
- Sergeant Man (736 m), 1.1 km north-east
- Codale Head (732 m), 1.4 km north-east
Challenges that include Thunacar Knott
More walks from Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park
Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.
- Great Langdale via Rossett Gill up Allen Crags
- Old Dungeon Ghyll via The Band up Bowfell
- Climbers' Traverse up Bowfell
- Great Langdale via Red Tarn up Cold Pike
- Old Dungeon Ghyll via Oxendale and Red Tarn up Crinkle Crags - Long Top
- Langdale via The Band and Three Tarns up Crinkle Crags - Long Top
- Great Langdale via Rossett Gill and Esk Hause up Esk Pike
- Langdale via Rossett Ghyll and Angle Tarn up Glaramara
- Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes up Harrison Stickle
- Mickleden via Stake Pass up High Raise
- Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes up Loft Crag
- Great Langdale via Red Tarn up Pike of Blisco
Other routes up Thunacar Knott
| Route | Distance | Ascent | Time up | Grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| New Dungeon Ghyll via Stickle Tarn | 3.1 km one way | — | — | Moderate |
| Mickleden via Stake Pass | 6.9 km one way | — | — | Hard |
In an emergency
Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at NY 286 061, the summit at NY 279 079), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.
Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes: questions and answers
How far is Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes?
Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes is 3.4 km one way to the summit of Thunacar Knott. There and back by the same way is about 6.8 km.
How steep is Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes?
The steepest 500 m averages about 38%, starting 2.3 km from the start, and 42% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes climbs 620 m in all on the track.
Where do you park for Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes?
Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes starts from Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park. The grid reference is NY 286 061. Old Dungeon Ghyll National Trust car park
Is Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes suitable for beginners?
Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first, such as New Dungeon Ghyll via Stickle Tarn.
Is there a GPX for Old Dungeon Ghyll and the Langdale Pikes?
Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.