Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass up Watson's Dodd: route map, distance and time

789 m · Cumbria

Watson's Dodd is a grassy top on the Helvellyn Dodds ridge above Thirlmere, its summit cairn set a little west of the main ridge path.

Follow the Sticks Pass path to the ridge, then walk north over Stybarrow Dodd to Watson's Dodd.

Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass at a glance

Distance4.9 km one way, to the top
Ascent686 m
Time up2h 5m by Naismith's rule
There and back3h 5m, down the same way
GradeModerate
StartLegburthwaite car park
Start grid referenceNY 318 193
Summit grid referenceNY 335 195

Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass map

The start (green) and the summit (blue). Peakify has no GPX track for this route yet, so follow the description and your map.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start grid ref NY 318 193 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Near the start

From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.

How long Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up1h 45m2h 35m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up2h 5m3h 5m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up2h 35m3h 50m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:46, sunset 18:07. Start by 14:02 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 5m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:05. Start by 14:00 to be down before dark, allowing 3h 5m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Watson's Dodd summit weather for this route

  • Good Today Sunday 18 October

    Partly cloudy, up to 6°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -5°C, summit wind 15 mph gusting 20 mph, 0% chance of rain. Rated Good. Sunrise 07:46, sunset 18:07.

  • Marginal Tomorrow Monday 19 October

    Slight rain, up to 8°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -2°C, summit wind 35 mph gusting 44 mph, 67% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:05.

Best day of the next seven for Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass: Sunday 18 October, with summit gusts around 20 mph and a 0% chance of rain.

Hour-by-hour Watson's Dodd forecast

Before you go, also check: MWIS Lake District forecast · Met Office mountain forecast · Weatherline fell top conditions.

What to take today

  • An insulated jacket, hat and warm gloves: it feels like -5°C on top.
  • A waterproof jacket. It can rain on the tops in any forecast.
  • Microspikes for icy paths. In snow, an ice axe and crampons and the skills to use them.
  • Map and compass, and the skills to use them. A phone is a backup, not a plan.
  • A head torch, food, water, a charged phone and a small first aid kit.

About Watson's Dodd

Watson's Dodd is a grassy top on the Helvellyn Dodds ridge above Thirlmere, its summit cairn set a little west of the main ridge path. More about Watson's Dodd, with the live forecast.

On the lists: Wainwright, Birkett.

Extend the walk: tops near the summit

Challenges that include Watson's Dodd

More walks from Legburthwaite car park

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Watson's Dodd

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
Legburthwaite direct4.4 km one way686 m2h 0mModerate
Glenridding via Sticks Pass7.3 km one way——Hard

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at NY 318 193, the summit at NY 335 195), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass: questions and answers

How far is Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass?

Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass is 4.9 km one way to the summit of Watson's Dodd, with 686 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 9.8 km.

How long does Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass take?

About 2h 5m to the summit of Watson's Dodd and 3h 5m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 3h 50m for the round trip.

Where do you park for Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass?

Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass starts from Legburthwaite car park. The grid reference is NY 318 193.

Is Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass suitable for beginners?

Yes, for fit walkers on a clear day. Peakify grades it Moderate: a long climb on a made path, but the top is high, exposed and colder than the start. Turn back if the cloud comes down and you can't navigate.

What time should I start Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass today?

By 14:02 at the latest. Sunset on Watson's Dodd today is 18:07, Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass takes about 3h 5m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for Legburthwaite via Sticks Pass?

Not yet. The Peakify iPhone app can plan the route and export a GPX (Peakify Pro).