Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks up Y Groes Fagl: route map, distance and time
659 m · Snowdonia
A hard mountain walk to the summit from Cwm Hirnant public track at SH949308.
Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks starts at about 362 m and gains 341 m over 5.2 km to 654 m on the track. The first 4 km are the easy part, averaging 4%. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 5 km, which climbs 120 m at an average of 12%. The final 0.2 km eases to the top.
Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks at a glance
| Distance | 5.2 km one way, to the top |
|---|---|
| Ascent | 350 m |
| Climb on the track | 341 m up, 53 m down on the way |
| Start and top of the track | 330 m to 654 m (summit 659 m) |
| Steepest 500 m | About 13%, from 4.4 km |
| Steeper than 1 in 5 | 2% of the way |
| Time up | 1h 35m by Naismith's rule |
| There and back | 2h 40m, down the same way |
| Grade | Hard |
| Start | Cwm Hirnant public track at SH949308 |
| Start grid reference | SH 950 307 |
| Summit grid reference | SH 988 290 |
| Parking | No checked car park for this start; find lawful parking nearby |
Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks map
The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.
Height profile and getting to the start
Download the Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks GPX
Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.
Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks kilometre by kilometre
Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.
| At | Height | Climb | Gradient | Grid ref |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 km | 341 m | -21 m | -2% | SH 956 306 |
| 2 km | 381 m | +40 m | 4% | SH 962 301 |
| 3 km | 424 m | +43 m | 4% | SH 969 295 |
| 4 km | 526 m | +102 m | 10% | SH 979 292 |
| 5 km | 646 m | +120 m | 12% | SH 988 288 |
| 5.2 km | 654 m | +8 m | 3% | SH 988 290 |
How long Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks takes
| Pace | To the top | There and back |
|---|---|---|
| Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up | 1h 20m | 2h 10m |
| Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up | 1h 35m | 2h 40m |
| Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up | 2h 0m | 3h 20m |
Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.
- Today: sunrise 07:03, sunset 16:51. Start by 13:11 to be down before dark, allowing 2h 40m for the walk and an hour for stops.
- Tomorrow: sunrise 07:05, sunset 16:49. Start by 13:09 to be down before dark, allowing 2h 40m for the walk and an hour for stops.
Y Groes Fagl summit weather for this route
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About Y Groes Fagl
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Challenges that include Y Groes Fagl
More walks from Cwm Hirnant public track at SH949308
Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.
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Other routes up Y Groes Fagl
| Route | Distance | Ascent | Time up | Grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cwm Hirnant by the Bwlch Hirnant track | 5.2 km one way | 380 m | 1h 40m | Hard |
In an emergency
Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 950 307, the summit at SH 988 290), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.
Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks: questions and answers
How far is Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks?
Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks is 5.2 km one way to the summit of Y Groes Fagl, with 350 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 10.4 km.
How long does Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks take?
About 1h 35m to the summit of Y Groes Fagl and 2h 40m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 3h 20m for the round trip.
How steep is Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks?
The steepest 500 m averages about 13%, starting 4.4 km from the start, and 2% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks climbs 341 m in all on the track.
Where do you park for Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks?
Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks starts from Cwm Hirnant public track at SH949308. The grid reference is SH 950 307. No checked car park for this start; find lawful parking nearby
Is Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks suitable for beginners?
Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first.
What time should I start Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks today?
By 13:11 at the latest. Sunset on Y Groes Fagl today is 16:51, Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks takes about 2h 40m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.
Is there a GPX for Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks?
Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.