Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks up Y Groes Fagl: route map, distance and time

659 m · Snowdonia

A hard mountain walk to the summit from Cwm Hirnant public track at SH949308.

Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks starts at about 362 m and gains 341 m over 5.2 km to 654 m on the track. The first 4 km are the easy part, averaging 4%. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 5 km, which climbs 120 m at an average of 12%. The final 0.2 km eases to the top.

Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks at a glance

Distance5.2 km one way, to the top
Ascent350 m
Climb on the track341 m up, 53 m down on the way
Start and top of the track330 m to 654 m (summit 659 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 13%, from 4.4 km
Steeper than 1 in 52% of the way
Time up1h 35m by Naismith's rule
There and back2h 40m, down the same way
GradeHard
StartCwm Hirnant public track at SH949308
Start grid referenceSH 950 307
Summit grid referenceSH 988 290
ParkingNo checked car park for this start; find lawful parking nearby

Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 362 m5.2 km to the top
Start grid ref SH 950 307 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Download the Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km341 m-21 m-2%SH 956 306
2 km381 m+40 m4%SH 962 301
3 km424 m+43 m4%SH 969 295
4 km526 m+102 m10%SH 979 292
5 km646 m+120 m12%SH 988 288
5.2 km654 m+8 m3%SH 988 290

How long Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up1h 20m2h 10m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up1h 35m2h 40m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up2h 0m3h 20m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:03, sunset 16:51. Start by 13:11 to be down before dark, allowing 2h 40m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:05, sunset 16:49. Start by 13:09 to be down before dark, allowing 2h 40m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Y Groes Fagl summit weather for this route

There is no recent summit forecast cached for Y Groes Fagl right now. The main Y Groes Fagl page loads the live forecast when you open it. Open the live Y Groes Fagl forecast.

Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

About Y Groes Fagl

More about Y Groes Fagl, with the live forecast.

Challenges that include Y Groes Fagl

More walks from Cwm Hirnant public track at SH949308

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Y Groes Fagl

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
Cwm Hirnant by the Bwlch Hirnant track5.2 km one way380 m1h 40mHard

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 950 307, the summit at SH 988 290), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks: questions and answers

How far is Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks?

Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks is 5.2 km one way to the summit of Y Groes Fagl, with 350 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 10.4 km.

How long does Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks take?

About 1h 35m to the summit of Y Groes Fagl and 2h 40m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 3h 20m for the round trip.

How steep is Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks?

The steepest 500 m averages about 13%, starting 4.4 km from the start, and 2% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks climbs 341 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks?

Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks starts from Cwm Hirnant public track at SH949308. The grid reference is SH 950 307. No checked car park for this start; find lawful parking nearby

Is Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks suitable for beginners?

Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first.

What time should I start Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks today?

By 13:11 at the latest. Sunset on Y Groes Fagl today is 16:51, Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks takes about 2h 40m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for Cwm Hirnant by the forest tracks?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.