Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge up Carnedd Llewelyn: route map, distance and time

1,064 m · Snowdonia

Carnedd Llewelyn is the highest summit of the Carneddau, a broad, stony plateau at the centre of Snowdonia's northern range.

A hard mountain walk to the summit from Bwlch y Ddeufaen mapped track junction.

The Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge starts at about 399 m and gains 796 m over 11.1 km to 1,049 m on the track. The first 2 km are the easy part, averaging 3%. The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 3 km, which climbs 164 m at an average of 16%, with a 500 m stretch from 5.5 km at about 22%. The final 0.1 km eases to the top.

Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge at a glance

Distance11.1 km one way, to the top
Ascent840 m
Climb on the track796 m up, 146 m down on the way
Start and top of the track399 m to 1,051 m (summit 1,064 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 22%, from 5.5 km
Steeper than 1 in 56% of the way
Time up3h 35m by Naismith's rule
There and back5h 50m, down the same way
GradeHard
StartBwlch y Ddeufaen mapped track junction, LL32 8UR
Start grid referenceSH 729 714
Summit grid referenceSH 683 643
ParkingBwlch y Ddeufaen eastern road-end car park (SH720715); the postcode is approximate

Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 399 m11.1 km to the top
Start grid ref SH 729 714 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Download the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km422 m+23 m2%SH 720 715
2 km460 m+38 m4%SH 711 717
3 km624 m+164 m16%SH 705 710
4 km689 m+65 m7%SH 707 701
5 km724 m+35 m3%SH 707 691
6 km850 m+126 m13%SH 701 683
7 km925 m+75 m8%SH 695 678
8 km907 m-18 m-2%SH 688 670
9 km914 m+7 m1%SH 688 662
10 km929 m+15 m2%SH 688 653
11 km1,050 m+121 m12%SH 683 644
11.1 km1,049 m-1 m-1%SH 683 643

How long the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up3h 0m4h 50m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up3h 35m5h 50m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up4h 25m7h 15m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:14. Start by 11:24 to be down before dark, allowing 5h 50m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11. Start by 11:21 to be down before dark, allowing 5h 50m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Carnedd Llewelyn summit weather for this route

  • Marginal Today Sunday 18 October

    Overcast, up to 4°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -5°C, summit wind 25 mph gusting 32 mph, 21% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:14.

  • Marginal Tomorrow Monday 19 October

    Moderate drizzle, up to 5°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -4°C, summit wind 37 mph gusting 47 mph, 73% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11.

Best day of the next seven for the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge: Sunday 18 October, with summit gusts around 32 mph and a 21% chance of rain.

Cloud inversion tomorrow morning: 2% (Low), best around 05:00. 7-day inversion outlook.

Hour-by-hour Carnedd Llewelyn forecast · 14-day forecast · Is it safe to climb Carnedd Llewelyn?

Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

What to take today

  • An insulated jacket, hat and warm gloves: it feels like -5°C on top.
  • A waterproof jacket. It can rain on the tops in any forecast.
  • A windproof layer, and poles for balance in gusts to 32 mph.
  • Microspikes for icy paths. In snow, an ice axe and crampons and the skills to use them.
  • Map and compass, and the skills to use them. A phone is a backup, not a plan.
  • A head torch, food, water, a charged phone and a small first aid kit.

About Carnedd Llewelyn

Carnedd Llewelyn is the highest summit of the Carneddau, a broad, stony plateau at the centre of Snowdonia's northern range. More about Carnedd Llewelyn, with the live forecast.

On the lists: Furth, Hewitt, Nuttall, Marilyn, county top.

Extend the walk: tops near the summit

Challenges that include Carnedd Llewelyn

More walks from Bwlch y Ddeufaen mapped track junction

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Carnedd Llewelyn

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
Ogwen via Carnedd Dafydd7.4 km one way910 m3h 0mModerate
South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge6.5 km one way940 m2h 50mHard
Gerlan via Yr Elen north-west ridge6.7 km one way890 m2h 50mHard
Cwm Eigiau via the eastern Foel Grach ridge12.0 km one way830 m3h 45mHard
Rachub via Drosgl and Yr Aryg flanks, via Bera Bach9.8 km one way830 m3h 20mHard
Llanfairfechan via Drum and northern ridge11.7 km one way1,000 m4h 0mHard
Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge11.3 km one way960 m3h 50mHard
Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du8.3 km one way879 m3h 10mScramble
East Ridge via Ffynnon Lloer and Carneddau ridge7.4 km one way920 m3h 0mScramble
Crib Lem / Llech Ddu Spur and Carnedd Dafydd9.2 km one way1,000 m3h 30mScramble
Cwm Llugwy and Craig yr Ysfa5.0 km one way780 m2h 20mScramble
Cwm Eigiau via Bwlch Eryl Farchog and Craig yr Ysfa9.7 km one way930 m3h 30mScramble

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 729 714, the summit at SH 683 643), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge: questions and answers

How far is the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge?

The Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge is 11.1 km one way to the summit of Carnedd Llewelyn, with 840 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 22.2 km.

How long does the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge take?

About 3h 35m to the summit of Carnedd Llewelyn and 5h 50m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 7h 15m for the round trip.

How steep is the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge?

The steepest 500 m averages about 22%, starting 5.5 km from the start, and 6% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. The Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge climbs 796 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge?

The Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge starts from Bwlch y Ddeufaen mapped track junction (postcode LL32 8UR). The grid reference is SH 729 714. Bwlch y Ddeufaen eastern road-end car park (SH720715); the postcode is approximate

Is the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge suitable for beginners?

Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first, such as Ogwen via Carnedd Dafydd.

What time should I start the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge today?

By 11:24 at the latest. Sunset on Carnedd Llewelyn today is 18:14, The Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge takes about 5h 50m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for the Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.