Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du up Carnedd Llewelyn: route map, distance and time

1,064 m · Snowdonia

Carnedd Llewelyn is the highest summit of the Carneddau, a broad, stony plateau at the centre of Snowdonia's northern range.

A path over Pen yr Helgi Du, down into Bwlch Eryl Farchog and up the rocky ridge to the summit.

Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du at a glance

Distance8.3 km one way, to the top
Ascent879 m
Time up3h 10m by Naismith's rule
There and back4h 45m, down the same way
GradeScramble
StartGlan Dena, Ogwen valley
Start grid referenceSH 668 605
Summit grid referenceSH 683 643

Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du map

The start (green) and the summit (blue). Peakify has no GPX track for this route yet, so follow the description and your map.

Height profile and getting to the start

How long Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up2h 35m3h 55m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up3h 10m4h 45m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up3h 50m5h 55m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:14. Start by 12:29 to be down before dark, allowing 4h 45m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11. Start by 12:26 to be down before dark, allowing 4h 45m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Carnedd Llewelyn summit weather for this route

  • Marginal Today Sunday 18 October

    Overcast, up to 4°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -5°C, summit wind 25 mph gusting 32 mph, 21% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:14.

  • Marginal Tomorrow Monday 19 October

    Moderate drizzle, up to 5°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -4°C, summit wind 37 mph gusting 47 mph, 73% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11.

Best day of the next seven for Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du: Sunday 18 October, with summit gusts around 32 mph and a 21% chance of rain.

Cloud inversion tomorrow morning: 2% (Low), best around 05:00. 7-day inversion outlook.

Hour-by-hour Carnedd Llewelyn forecast · 14-day forecast · Is it safe to climb Carnedd Llewelyn?

Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

What to take today

  • An insulated jacket, hat and warm gloves: it feels like -5°C on top.
  • A waterproof jacket. It can rain on the tops in any forecast.
  • A windproof layer, and poles for balance in gusts to 32 mph.
  • Microspikes for icy paths. In snow, an ice axe and crampons and the skills to use them.
  • Map and compass, and the skills to use them. A phone is a backup, not a plan.
  • A head torch, food, water, a charged phone and a small first aid kit.

About Carnedd Llewelyn

Carnedd Llewelyn is the highest summit of the Carneddau, a broad, stony plateau at the centre of Snowdonia's northern range. More about Carnedd Llewelyn, with the live forecast.

On the lists: Furth, Hewitt, Nuttall, Marilyn, county top.

Extend the walk: tops near the summit

Challenges that include Carnedd Llewelyn

More walks from Glan Dena, Ogwen valley

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Carnedd Llewelyn

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
Ogwen via Carnedd Dafydd7.4 km one way910 m3h 0mModerate
South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge6.5 km one way940 m2h 50mHard
Gerlan via Yr Elen north-west ridge6.7 km one way890 m2h 50mHard
Cwm Eigiau via the eastern Foel Grach ridge12.0 km one way830 m3h 45mHard
Rachub via Drosgl and Yr Aryg flanks, via Bera Bach9.8 km one way830 m3h 20mHard
Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge11.1 km one way840 m3h 35mHard
Llanfairfechan via Drum and northern ridge11.7 km one way1,000 m4h 0mHard
Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge11.3 km one way960 m3h 50mHard
East Ridge via Ffynnon Lloer and Carneddau ridge7.4 km one way920 m3h 0mScramble
Crib Lem / Llech Ddu Spur and Carnedd Dafydd9.2 km one way1,000 m3h 30mScramble
Cwm Llugwy and Craig yr Ysfa5.0 km one way780 m2h 20mScramble
Cwm Eigiau via Bwlch Eryl Farchog and Craig yr Ysfa9.7 km one way930 m3h 30mScramble

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 668 605, the summit at SH 683 643), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du: questions and answers

How far is Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du?

Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du is 8.3 km one way to the summit of Carnedd Llewelyn, with 879 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 16.6 km.

How long does Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du take?

About 3h 10m to the summit of Carnedd Llewelyn and 4h 45m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 5h 55m for the round trip.

Where do you park for Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du?

Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du starts from Glan Dena, Ogwen valley. The grid reference is SH 668 605.

Is Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du suitable for beginners?

No. It is a scramble: you use your hands on rock, often with big drops below. Go with someone experienced, on a dry and calm day, or take Ogwen via Carnedd Dafydd instead.

What time should I start Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du today?

By 12:29 at the latest. Sunset on Carnedd Llewelyn today is 18:14, Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du takes about 4h 45m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du?

Not yet. The Peakify iPhone app can plan the route and export a GPX (Peakify Pro).