South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge up Carnedd Llewelyn: route map, distance and time

1,064 m · Snowdonia

Carnedd Llewelyn is the highest summit of the Carneddau, a broad, stony plateau at the centre of Snowdonia's northern range.

A hard mountain walk to the summit from Ogwen Cottage north-side path.

The South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge starts at about 314 m and gains 911 m over 6.5 km to 1,049 m on the track. It is steep from the start: the first kilometre climbs 404 m (40%). The steepest kilometre is the one ending at 1 km, which climbs 404 m at an average of 40%, with a 500 m stretch from 0.5 km at about 52%. It keeps climbing at 21% to the top. About 28% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5, so expect hands-on-knees going and a slow descent.

South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge at a glance

Distance6.5 km one way, to the top
Ascent940 m
Climb on the track911 m up, 178 m down on the way
Start and top of the track296 m to 1,049 m (summit 1,064 m)
Steepest 500 mAbout 52%, from 0.5 km
Steeper than 1 in 528% of the way
Time up2h 50m by Naismith's rule
There and back4h 10m, down the same way
GradeHard
StartOgwen Cottage north-side path, LL57 3LZ
Start grid referenceSH 650 604
Summit grid referenceSH 683 643
ParkingLlyn Ogwen / Ogwen Centre car park; the postcode is approximate

South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge map

The track from the start (green) to the summit (blue), with a marker at each kilometre.

Height profile and getting to the start

Start 314 m6.5 km to the top
Start grid ref SH 650 604 · Driving directions · By bus or train

Near the start

From OpenStreetMap, within 2 km. Check opening times before you rely on them.

Download the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge GPX

Ascent only: plan your way down. A planning track, not checked on the ground; it doesn't show safe scrambling moves. Track data © OpenStreetMap contributors (ODbL), heights from a terrain model.

South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge kilometre by kilometre

Height, climb and average gradient for each kilometre of the track, with a grid reference at the end of each one to check your position on the map.

AtHeightClimbGradientGrid ref
1 km718 m+404 m40% steepSH 652 612
2 km949 m+231 m23% steepSH 655 619
3 km955 m+6 m1%SH 658 627
4 km968 m+13 m1%SH 667 630
5 km930 m-38 m-4%SH 676 632
6 km941 m+11 m1%SH 682 639
6.5 km1,049 m+108 m21% steepSH 683 643

How long the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge takes

PaceTo the topThere and back
Brisk 6 km/h, 8 min per 100 m up2h 20m3h 25m
Steady (Naismith) 5 km/h, 10 min per 100 m up2h 50m4h 10m
Relaxed 4 km/h, 12 min per 100 m up3h 30m5h 10m

Times leave out stops. Coming down the same way, the table counts the ascent once; steep descents on rough ground can be as slow as the climb.

  • Today: sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:14. Start by 13:04 to be down before dark, allowing 4h 10m for the walk and an hour for stops.
  • Tomorrow: sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11. Start by 13:01 to be down before dark, allowing 4h 10m for the walk and an hour for stops.

Carnedd Llewelyn summit weather for this route

  • Marginal Today Sunday 18 October

    Overcast, up to 4°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -5°C, summit wind 25 mph gusting 32 mph, 21% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:48, sunset 18:14.

  • Marginal Tomorrow Monday 19 October

    Moderate drizzle, up to 5°C at the summit, feeling as cold as -4°C, summit wind 37 mph gusting 47 mph, 73% chance of rain. Rated Marginal. Sunrise 07:49, sunset 18:11.

Best day of the next seven for the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge: Sunday 18 October, with summit gusts around 32 mph and a 21% chance of rain.

Cloud inversion tomorrow morning: 2% (Low), best around 05:00. 7-day inversion outlook.

Hour-by-hour Carnedd Llewelyn forecast · 14-day forecast · Is it safe to climb Carnedd Llewelyn?

Before you go, also check: MWIS Snowdonia forecast · Met Office mountain forecast.

What to take today

  • An insulated jacket, hat and warm gloves: it feels like -5°C on top.
  • A waterproof jacket. It can rain on the tops in any forecast.
  • A windproof layer, and poles for balance in gusts to 32 mph.
  • Microspikes for icy paths. In snow, an ice axe and crampons and the skills to use them.
  • Map and compass, and the skills to use them. A phone is a backup, not a plan.
  • A head torch, food, water, a charged phone and a small first aid kit.

About Carnedd Llewelyn

Carnedd Llewelyn is the highest summit of the Carneddau, a broad, stony plateau at the centre of Snowdonia's northern range. More about Carnedd Llewelyn, with the live forecast.

On the lists: Furth, Hewitt, Nuttall, Marilyn, county top.

Extend the walk: tops near the summit

Challenges that include Carnedd Llewelyn

More walks from Ogwen Cottage north-side path

Routes in Peakify's guides that start within 500 m of this one, for another day from the same car park.

Other routes up Carnedd Llewelyn

RouteDistanceAscentTime upGrade
Ogwen via Carnedd Dafydd7.4 km one way910 m3h 0mModerate
Gerlan via Yr Elen north-west ridge6.7 km one way890 m2h 50mHard
Cwm Eigiau via the eastern Foel Grach ridge12.0 km one way830 m3h 45mHard
Rachub via Drosgl and Yr Aryg flanks, via Bera Bach9.8 km one way830 m3h 20mHard
Bwlch y Ddeufaen via Drum and northern ridge11.1 km one way840 m3h 35mHard
Llanfairfechan via Drum and northern ridge11.7 km one way1,000 m4h 0mHard
Abergwyngregyn via Drum via Drum and northern ridge11.3 km one way960 m3h 50mHard
Ogwen via Pen yr Helgi Du8.3 km one way879 m3h 10mScramble
East Ridge via Ffynnon Lloer and Carneddau ridge7.4 km one way920 m3h 0mScramble
Crib Lem / Llech Ddu Spur and Carnedd Dafydd9.2 km one way1,000 m3h 30mScramble
Cwm Llugwy and Craig yr Ysfa5.0 km one way780 m2h 20mScramble
Cwm Eigiau via Bwlch Eryl Farchog and Craig yr Ysfa9.7 km one way930 m3h 30mScramble

In an emergency

Call 999, ask for the police and then mountain rescue. Give your location (the start is at SH 650 604, the summit at SH 683 643), what happened and how many are in your group. If you have no signal for a call, a text to 999 works once you have registered your phone with emergencySMS: text "register" to 999 before you go.

South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge: questions and answers

How far is the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge?

The South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge is 6.5 km one way to the summit of Carnedd Llewelyn, with 940 m of ascent. There and back by the same way is about 13.0 km.

How long does the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge take?

About 2h 50m to the summit of Carnedd Llewelyn and 4h 10m there and back by Naismith's rule (5 km/h plus 10 minutes per 100 m of ascent), before stops. A relaxed group takes nearer 5h 10m for the round trip.

How steep is the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge?

The steepest 500 m averages about 52%, starting 0.5 km from the start, and 28% of the way is steeper than 1 in 5. The South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge climbs 911 m in all on the track.

Where do you park for the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge?

The South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge starts from Ogwen Cottage north-side path (postcode LL57 3LZ). The grid reference is SH 650 604. Llyn Ogwen / Ogwen Centre car park; the postcode is approximate

Is the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge suitable for beginners?

Not as a first mountain. Peakify grades it Hard: steep, rough ground where a slip matters. Build up on an easier route first, such as Ogwen via Carnedd Dafydd.

What time should I start the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge today?

By 13:04 at the latest. Sunset on Carnedd Llewelyn today is 18:14, The South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge takes about 4h 10m there and back, and that leaves an hour for stops. Start earlier in winter or if the forecast turns.

Is there a GPX for the South-west ridge from Ogwen and Carneddau ridge?

Yes. Download it from this page. It is an ascent-only planning track from the start to the summit, plotted on OpenStreetMap paths and not checked on the ground.